Ben Shapiro says Pam Bondi “acted really irresponsibly by feeding this monster” of Jeffrey Epstein conspiracy theories
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From the July 9, 2025, edition of The Daily Wire's The Ben Shapiro Show
BEN SHAPIRO (HOST): The actual claim is that Jeffrey Epstein killed himself and also that there is no gigantic list of third parties to whom Jeffrey Epstein was trafficking children. Doesn't mean he was innocent in any way.
But, again, all of this is part and parcel of a broader theory that's being spun out by people like Tucker, that the real story here, the real story is that Jeffrey Epstein was either a domestic intelligence agent.
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This was the going theory in the online space. And if the evidence is not released to justify that theory, or if the DOJ and FBI said that theory isn't true, that is not proof that the theory isn't true. It's not even evidence the theory isn't true. It actually is evidence the theory is true. And this is the problem with conspiracy theories generally.
There are indeed conspiracies. We'll discuss one that the FBI and DOJ are investigating in a moment. But the great wonder of a conspiracy theory is that it is totally unfalsifiable. So if the DOJ and FBI say there's no evidence for the proposition that you are putting forth, this just means they're in on it. There's an old joke about a man who goes to heaven, and the first question he asks God is, who shot JFK? And God looks at the man, and he says, well, it was Lee Harvey Oswald. And he shot him. Right? It was Lee Harvey Oswald. And the man says, I never realized the conspiracy went this high. Right?
Once you reach the level where you have no evidence for your suppositions, but your suppositions are more important than any of the evidence or even the credibility of the people you're attacking — and let's be clear, when people like Tucker are attacking the DOJ and the FBI here, they're attacking President Trump's DOJ and President Trump's FBI. They're not just attacking Pam Bondi, who, again, I think acted really irresponsibly by feeding this monster for a while without the evidence to actually support it. But the attacks are not just on Pam Bondi for being inconsistent. The attacks are on the entire Trump administration because if you actually believe the proposition that the Trump administration knows better and is lying to you in order to cover for a child trafficking sex monster, if that is your supposition, then just say it. Really, just say it because that's what you would have to suppose. There is no third choice.