KATE BOLDUAN (GUEST HOST): There is no evidence of widespread voter fraud, of course, but there is one website that's reported this claim, this baseless claim, and it's one that maybe -- I don't know, does Trump rely on this for his news? Phil Mattingly is OutFront.
PHIL MATTINGLY: It's been a cozy relationship from the beginning.
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MATTINGLY: Donald Trump and Alex Jones, the conservative conspiracy theorist and operator of the website Infowars, which seems to be a place where Trump gets a lot of his information.
Jones can take credit for spearheading some of the most outrageous theories on the internet, from claims that 9/11 was a government conspiracy to the Sandy Hook shooting being faked. Jones theories reach tens of millions each month, and are now often echoed by the next President of the United States. Take President Obama's birth.
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MATTINGLY: And in the wake of the election, Jones pushing a theory that despite the vote totals, Trump actually won the popular vote.
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MATTINGLY: And Trump tweeting four days later, quote “In addition to the electoral college, I won the popular vote if you deduct the millions of people who voted illegally.”