JILL SAVAGE (GUEST): Trump had that event in Iowa, that big rally that he was supposed to have that got canceled because of a tornado watch. Has he been back for any other large rallies in the state of Iowa?
STEVE DEACE (HOST): He's done events, but not large rallies. He's done very modest events in Iowa. Yeah.
SAVAGE: That's my point. He does town halls with Sean Hannity. He doesn't have to prep for them. That's easy. Him and Sean, it's mutually beneficial for them. Sean gets the ratings because nobody cares about Fox News anymore, but Trump goes on there and he says, okay, my buddy isn't gonna ask me difficult questions. He avoided the Family Leadership Summit. He's a -- he's -- right now, as of now, he's not going to plan on being part of the first debate. He's not doing anything of real substance to try and win the nomination. He's doing things that are easy and he is raising money. That's why I ask, does he actually want to win?