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Fox News guest claims the “homosexual revolution” is part of a “dynamic movement in the culture toward evil at all levels”

Pastor John MacArthur: “This is just the next small step in the disintegration of an entire nation that has no conscience”

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Written by Alex Paterson

Published 09/11/20 12:20 PM EDT

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Fox’s “news” anchor Shannon Bream hosted anti-LGBTQ pastor John MacArthur, who claimed that there is a “dynamic movement in the culture toward evil at all levels” that includes the ”homosexual revolution," which he called part of “30 years of [people] trying to destroy morality” in the U.S.

Bream regularly gives anti-LGBTQ guests a platform to spread misinformation about queer and trans people, particularly demonstrated by her cozy relationship with extreme anti-LGBTQ group Alliance Defending Freedom. She also serially misgenders trans people, a form of harassment that goes against journalistic standards.

MacArthur has a history of making extreme anti-LGBTQ remarks. He has compared being gay to robbing banks and told his congregation, “No one is gay. … They are not gay any more than an adulterer is hardwired to be forced by his own nature to commit adultery.” He also advised parents with adult gay children, “You isolate them, you don’t have a meal with them, you separate from them, you turn them over to Satan.”

During the September 10 edition of Fox News @ Night, Bream asked MacArthur about Cuties, a new film on Netflix that has been targeted by right-wing media for sexualized content including children. In response, MacArthur said this is “exactly where we would expect to be … if you had 30 years of a sexual revolution, a homosexual revolution.” He claimed, “This is just the next small step in the disintegration of an entire nation that has no conscience.” He also said that “when you have a dynamic movement in the culture toward evil at all levels, it just is not possible to stop it.”

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Citation From the September 10, 2020, edition of Fox News’ Fox News @ Night With Shannon Bream  

SHANNON BREAM (ANCHOR): I want to ask you all about another story that touches on issues of morality and things that pastors are often asked to weigh in on. And this is this Netflix movie called Cuties. Now, when I saw the poster a few weeks ago and there was a lot of outrage about it, these young girls, what they were going to be doing, and dancing that kind of thing. I've asked our group and our team not to show the video because I saw it today, and it was actually much worse than I actually thought it was going to be. You know, I don't even know what to say. These are supposed to be 11-year-old girls. As a woman, it breaks my heart to see the way that they are being essentially sexualized and used here. Pastor, where are we in this cultural moment where there’s not a condemnation by other big Netflix names or people associated with that particular service. 

JOHN MACARTHUR (GRACE COMMUNITY CHURCH PASTOR): Well, we’re absolutely and exactly where we would expect to be if you had 30 years of trying to destroy morality. If you had 30 years of a sexual revolution, a homosexual revolution, and you thought you were going to be able to stop it at some point and say “well that’s far enough, go no further,” that's just not possible. The slide is greased, and it's rapidly going downhill at a warp speed. And to try to intervene at some point and say that's enough, you’d have had to start a long time ago. This is just the next small step in the disintegration of an entire nation that has no conscience. I wrote an article for The Daily Wire on -- is America losing its conscience, the vanishing conscience of America. We‘ve lost that. We’ve lost any sense of the law of God in the heart. It’s been overturned by a corrupt view of morality. We've lost the role of the conscience because we've been told to feel no shame. And when you have a dynamic movement in the culture toward evil at all levels, it just is not possible to stop it -- at some point where you say, that’s too far.

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