PBD Podcast panelist says Erika Kirk should “be home” instead of leading TPUSA: “That's a man's job”
Vincent Oshana: “You're there, there's a shooting, and you're crying, saying, I want to go home. You should be home. You haven't been home. You have two children at home. You're about to go on a tour and everything.”
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From the May 1, 2026, edition of PBD Podcast
VINCENT OSHANA (PANELIST): Before I even say anything, because I know where people are going to go, I have — by the way, I've prayed for this woman. I actually want her to succeed. I want nothing but the best for her and Charlie's children, number one. But she needs to step away as soon as possible, OK? It's gone on.
PATRICK BET-DAVID (HOST): Step away as in like, away from —
OSHANA: As CEO Pat, get out of there. You said this a while ago but be, be the chair, be there, but this is — like, if you're trying to replace Charlie Kirk, God rest his soul, it's impossible. You cannot do it. All right? This is, he's — he was the CEO of a huge, huge international organization — a political organization, Pat. He's irreplaceable. You're not going to do it.
And I'm sorry, and I — and people are going to be butt hurt. How dare you, grieving widow. Enough with that nonsense. I'm not talking about none of that. I feel for her, OK, because she thought that she could replace Charlie Kirk. You can't. Andrew Kolvet, whoever that guy is, they're sitting there doing the Charlie Kirk podcast without Charlie Kirk. Nonsense. Rob, go to their channel, go to the views of that podcast. Don't even go back and show Charlie's because it's in the millions. Nobody's watching it. Nobody's watching it. So the, the — whoever was behind it, and all the people that were behind Charlie Kirk, it's working, because TPUSA, Pat, they're feeling it, OK?
And I'm sorry, you show up to the White House Correspondent's Dinner, OK. You're taking photos with people. People are going to talk about you. You're taking a — you went to the VIP thing with whatever his name is, you're taking photos, and then there's a shooting in a place where you know, you know, that the biggest targets are there. The president has already been — the assassination attempt has already been happened twice. All the major players are there. You're there, there's a shooting, and you're crying, saying, I want to go home. You should be home. You haven't been home. You have two children at home. You're about to go on a tour and everything.
I'm sorry, Pat. That's a man's job to be the CEO of Turning Point USA, Adam. I don't care what anybody says. That's a man's job. I'm not bashing anything about women, but this is a political, huge organization, all right, with the biggest movement for Republicans, and he helped the president become the president, and I'm sorry, if you can't take the heat, that's what CEOs do. I'm sorry.
You went there to confront your critics. Your critics aren't there, Erika. They're not there. Fox is there, CNN is there. You're — those are cool people there. They're not bashing you. You think Candace and all these people are going to show up there? And I'm sorry. And again, I pray for her, but I — you know, I do. I genuinely loved Charlie, and I pray for her family. You don't have it. This isn't it. This isn't your bag. Step back, let somebody else take it. Let somebody else take it.
And I say this with pain in my heart. The people behind assassinating Charlie, this is what they wanted, Pat. The movement's weakened. Nobody's watching. You know what I mean? You're replacing it because you want to be in front of the camera, you want to take it and then complain about it. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. This is what comes when you want to be the CEO of Turning Point USA because everybody's coming after you. And when you're in front of the camera, they're all going to talk. We all know that. I guarantee the comments are — half of them are talking crap and half of them are saying Vinnie is right. And I — that's what comes with the territory because I'm sitting in front of a camera in front of a mic, Pat. She needs to, she — just be the chair. Sit back. When you go on stage, Pat, fireworks. Erica Kirk, CEO, chair. This isn't the WWE. This is — you have children. Go take care of them. Go be with them. Let somebody take the rein. That's how I feel.