From the April 27, 2023, edition of MSNBC's Morning Joe

JOE SCARBOROUGH: But those conflicts that we’ve seen between different things, you hear it in conversations, we hear it in conversations all the time when we’re off the set with people who believe in more social justice, think we need to move more toward social justice, support affirmative action, think the country needs to do more on the issues of race, you go through all that. At the same time, they oppose political correctness, woke culture, and cancel culture. On LGBTQ issues, the same people that would be the first to say we need to be more tolerant, we need to be more supportive of the LGBTQ community will also say alright, so why did a male swimmer who transitioned to becoming a woman, why is she able to now compete with other women swimmers post-puberty? So this is all very complicated stuff. That last thing I talked about that we've talked about before here, 82% of Americans say post-puberty, people who transition post-puberty should not be able to compete against those who did not transition post-puberty. At the same time, a large segment of those people would be the first to say we need to be more supportive of the LGBTQ community.