LAURA INGRAHAM (HOST): Their goal ultimately is the destruction or elimination of the traditional family, though, is it not? That's what we really want to get at here. That's really what's going on. If masculinity is bad and men are inherently going to be patriarchal unless somehow we can train them, and beat this out of them - to be protectors and to be courageous, all these things that we impugn upon men - well if you get rid of all that, then the traditional family itself collapses and that's one last bastion of Western Biblically-centered morality that enveloping our, and has helped us prosper, frankly, for millennia and advance in millennia.
PAUL NATHANSON (GUEST): Yes, that's true. I think that the trans people have taken it one step further because by abandoning gender altogther, not simply re-writing it, they're basically trying to use social engineering to create a new species. Which is what, in fact, the transhumanists have been doing for the past half century. Using medical and other technologies to develop a new species. So the goal is really quite radical. We're not talking about people who want to simply do a bit of reform here and there, add a new category. They want, they must, in fact, destroy whatever is in order to replace it with what they think should be. We're talking about revolution, not reform.
INGRAHAM: And the new species will be looking like what? Will be part human part animal? I mean, will be human mostly --
NATHANSON: I think human and part machine.
INGRAHAM: Part machine.
