From the October 31 edition of CNN's New Day with Chris Cuomo and Alisyn Camerota:
CHRIS CUOMO (CO-HOST): Right. He also misses the big word: slavery.
JOHN AVLON: Right.
CUOMO: It was about slavery not a crisis of conscience. And what does this really show us? Kelly is a respected guy. How he leads men and women, how he has organized his attention to duty. That's all true. I've checked it 10 ways from Sunday. It's true. But giving him credit for a political modulating ethos is false. It's always been false. The idea that he would control the president's political instincts to play towards division was always an empty promise and this is the proof. Listen to what he's saying and listen to where we've heard it before. You've heard it come out of the president's mouth. Kelly --
ALISYN CAMEROTA (CO-HOST): Says there's good people on both sides.
CUOMO: Good people on both sides, crisis of conscience. Think about the monuments in a different way, maybe, than these people want to take them down. It's bigotry being ignored and rationalized and Kelly is not going to make it better. He's making it the same or worse.