Ben Shapiro says Shawn Ryan's political takes “have the informed maturity of a potato”
Shapiro: “Shawn Ryan is a conspiracy-ridden podcaster for those who don't know. He's kind of one of these podcast bros who doesn't know anything but purports to have conspiratorial knowledge over world events.”
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From the June 3, 2026, edition of The Daily Wire's The Ben Shapiro Show
BEN SHAPIRO (HOST): Why is this difficult? It is not difficult at all. But for Democrats it is because there are no limits to the left-wing tilt of the Democratic Party. Now on the right, obviously, there is a similar problem. That problem is similar but not the same. The reason I say this is because there's a splinter faction in the Democratic Party that is taking over the Democratic Party wholesale. I mean, the Adam Hamawis of the party, the Zohran Mamdanis of the party, the Graham Platners of the party are taking over the party, and the traditional Democrats are just caving to them. They're bowing before them. The same thing is actually not happening on the right. You have a splinter faction of pseudo-Republicans who supported Trump in 2024, and now they're making common cause with Democrats. This is the thing. Right? The woke right, which is rooted in grievance politics or click whoring like Megyn Kelly — just chasing those clicks. Got to get them clicks. The goal here is to form a new alliance with the left. So the woke right is just the new left, they're the same thing.
So Megyn Kelly appeared with Shawn Ryan. So Shawn Ryan is a conspiracy-ridden podcaster for those who don't know. He's kind of one of these podcast bros who doesn't know anything but purports to have conspiratorial knowledge over world events despite the fact that his political takes are, shall we say, that they have the informed maturity of a potato.
In any case, Megyn Kelly, who is a — who's just seeking the clicks, always and forever. She's the weather vane of politics. Whichever way the wind blows, that is the direction that Megyn Kelly will move. Never has a political parade begun with Megyn Kelly at the front that has ended without Megyn Kelly at the front twirling a baton. Well, now the lady who was campaigning with Trump — rah rah, Trump. Right? She went from Trump is the worst thing in the world, literally the worst, in 2016 to he is the greatest — you remember. I don't have to retell the story. The sordid tale. She went from I'm a defender of women and young women, young mothers, to still, I'm checking my clock here. Checking the watch. It is June 3. Charlie Kirk was assassinated nine months ago. Still nothing on the will-Megyn-Kelly-condemn-Candace-Owens-for-slandering-Erika-Kirk watch. Still nothing there. In any case, here she was on Shawn Ryan. Now she — the new wave, the new wave. The way she believes the wind is blowing is toward the woke right slash new left. They're the same. She says she hasn't been a Republican in over 20 years.