From the October 19 edition of MSNBC’s MSNBC Live:
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STEVE KORNACKI (HOST): Gabe, also apparently with the news today, you were on stage at an event, the Vanity Fair New Establishment Summit. You're saying that Donald Trump may have lost a key ally here in Roger Ailes, the former head of Fox. Who’s been advising this campaign informally. What's going on there?
GABRIEL SHERMAN: Yea, well Steve if you talk to people inside both Trump’s world and Ailes’ orbit, you hear that both sides have really stopped speaking and being in contact with each other. You get two different version of events. My Trump sources say that during the debate prep sessions that Ailes attended, he told old war stories and really didn’t add much, was reminiscing about the past. If you talk to Ailes’ advisers, they say that really, Trump was un-coachable, wasn't listening to any of Ailes’ advice, which is the opposite of what he's doing. Ailes wanted him to stay big picture at 40,000 feet, talk about big themes and not get down in the weeds and really Trump was not listening to that, and so Ailes pulled back. So really what we see is this campaign, as you just mentioned, is really being run by Donald Trump and Steve Bannon and to a lesser -- to some extent Kellyanne Conway. This is the Breitbart campaign to the finish line.
