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On the April 3 edition of Fox News' The O'Reilly Factor, discussing pregnant transgender man Thomas Beatie, Bill O'Reilly said: "You imagine a poor kid getting born into that family going, 'Hey... whoa. Who are you today?' " Fox News contributor Bernard Goldberg responded: "That's the real tragedy." Think Progress noted O'Reilly's comments on its blog.
From the April 3 edition of Fox News' The O'Reilly Factor:
O'REILLY: Jane, what do you think?
JANE HALL (Fox News contributor): Well, you know, I don't -- I think it is something of an oddity I suppose Oprah's women audience would love to know what a man being pregnant actually feels like, thinks like. You know, I don't consider it as bad as all the interviews with pimps that we saw after the Eliot Spitzer scandal. I mean, the man hasn't done anything immoral. He's done something very odd, and that's what they're cashing in on. But I don't think --
O'REILLY: Right, but if your 13-year-old is watching --
HALL: -- it's the same category.
O'REILLY: Do you want a 13-year-old watching this kind of stuff, and you've got to explain all this crazy stuff? Do you want that?
HALL: I'm more bothered by stuff that looks pretty darn pornographic. This looks like a medical oddity. I would say it's not as bad as some other stuff.
O'REILLY: All right. So --
HALL: That's all.
O'REILLY: -- neither of you are upset about this.
GOLDBERG: Well, I don't think it's good. I think it's one more example of how crummy television can be, and frankly, more than television, the whole culture. You know, a guy -- she's born a woman, she becomes a guy, but she still has ovaries and a womb. She marries some guy and she has a baby --
O'REILLY: She married a girl.
GOLDBERG: -- marries a girl.
GOLDBERG: This --
O'REILLY: It's hard to keep track, Bernie. It is.
GOLDBERG: This is like --
O'REILLY: You imagine a poor kid getting born into that family going, "Hey" --
GOLDBERG: Now that's --
O'REILLY: -- "whoa. Who are you today?"
GOLDBERG: That's the real tragedy.
O'REILLY: Of course. But Oprah will deal with it, I'm sure.